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Saturday, December 29, 2007

Atheist Missions

There are tens of thousands of Christian missions around the world that feed the homeless and take care of the poor. So I thought I would see how many atheist missions came up on the Internet. I typed in “Atheist Missions,” and guess how many came up? Zip. I tried the search words “atheists feed the poor.” None. “Atheists helping the homeless.” No results. I got more results from typing in “Hen’s teeth.” So, Mr. Atheist, if the economy turns sour and leaves you homeless, thank God that there are Christian missions out there that will feed you, clothe you, and give you and your children somewhere to sleep. If you find yourself in a disaster, thank God for the Salvation Army (Christian based), or the Red Cross (Christian based), or if you are taken to a hospital because of a serious illness, you may end up in a Saint John’s, a Saint Jude’s or some other hospital whose name reminds us of its roots. One more thought. If you find yourself in a lifeboat with no food and a group of very hungry people who are checking you out for lunch (it has happened), who would you rather be sharing the lifeboat with--a group of starving evolutionists who believe in “survival of the fittest” and have no moral absolutes, or with a group of Christians, who love their neighbor as themselves and fear God?

13 comments:

Frank said...

That's true....just recently with Hurricane Katrina the church demonstrsted its compassion and almost outdid the government in their assistance. I don't remember seeing any atheist groups going out their and helping. I guess they are just putting Darwin's "survival of the fittest" into action.

Emmanuel Ember said...

Awesome Blog.... I'm still laughing.
I promise you there would not be one atheist who would dare venture into a boat load of starving evolutionists over christians... They would find religion real fast.... LOL...........

God Bless

Jœl said...

Ray,

Ah, this one's easy. The reason you'll never see any so-named "atheist charity" organizations is because it's rather ridiculous to name an organization "The No Such Thing as Zeus for Feeding Hungry Kids Foundation."

An atheist would name a charity something like, oh, I don't know, "The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation," or "America's Second Harvest," or "Band Aid," or... you get my drift. There's absolutely no need for an atheist to identify a lack of belief in something that has nothing to do with the cause itself in the name of a charitable foundation.

Atheists are, overall, nice people. We just don't believe the same things you do. We like helping people just as much as everyone else. We just think that this feeling of goodwill is natural to the human condition rather than needing to be forced on us by some celestial despot. The very idea that there are people out there that think they need to be told to be nice to others is depressing.

Much love,

Joel

Karen said...

Overall nice people need to realize that this "niceness" comes from somewhere. It is not just there. It comes from the spirit of God.

Ess said...

Nice one karen :o) Every good and perfect gift comes from above!! When there's Someone to be grateful to, it's so much nicer. I was thinking about that today :o)

Pvblivs said...

The primary purpose of christian missions is to spread christianity. Helping the poor is just the "hook." When conquest and force of law were sufficient to "spread the faith" there was no concern for the poor and hungry.

On the other hand, atheists do not use a "hook" to try to spread atheism. So when atheists (and some christians, hindus, buddhists, etc.) help the poor and hungry, they don't do it under a religious banner. I hope you can understand that concept, Ray.

D.Ram said...

The Red Cross has never been a Christian organization. The symbol of the Red Cross comes from the inverted Swiss flag, as the organization was established in Geneva. Nevertheless, the cross does tend to make people think that it is Christian, which is the reason why Muslim countries use the symbol of the Red Crescent, and is also the reason for your incorrect assumption.

Emmanuel Ember said...

Joel,

Please stop your rhetoric, posturing and waxing eloguently
on theory......

Your missing the bottom line:
It's all about Jesus Christ.
Is he your savior? Yes/No?

Forget all the nonsense your kicking around and get with it.
Read: 1 Cor 1:18-31...
You sound like the character here trying to use your earthly wisdom to argue with the facts of God which makes you look foolish and in danger of going straight to hell.

Randy

JOSHUA S BLACK said...

Pvblivs,

I can easily challenge your statement of Christian charity being merely a hook. Now, it is true, that Christians do charitable work in order to bring glory to God and sinners to Christ, but that is not a scam: God is real, and Jesus really did rise from the dead after paying for our sins on a Roman cross. Such facts are unspeakably good news to those who are suffering.

And, anyway, Jesus was the Chief of all Charities while He was here on earth, and thus those who claim to follow Him should be doing just as He did. It's only logical.

Furthermore, as Christians, we know that the love that we have for people did not originate within our own hearts, because we know that our hearts are desparately wicked (Jeremiah 17:9), and therefore when we give glory to God for the things that we do, we are meerely acknowledging the source of our love for our fellow man. If we did not, we would be plagiarists.

Now, I won't deny that there are some "Christian" missions who are anything but true charity, but those people are not true Christians, as we have repeatedly tried to explain. I know it is confusing when people who do similar things wear the same label, but counterfeits exist everywhere--that's why we have (in the USA) the Secret Service.

Jœl said...

@Karen

"Overall nice people need to realize that this "niceness" comes from somewhere. It is not just there. It comes from the spirit of God."

Karen, you've brought up a good point. "Niceness" does come from somewhere. It comes from you and me and Ray, and everyone else on this planet. What's considered 'good' and 'bad' are all just part of the internal dialog we all have when considering whether we should pursue any behavior. It's a lot like the mantra "What would Jesus do?" It's just as subjective but a lot more personal: "Would I like it if everyone else did this?" Take stealing, for instance. "Would I like it if everyone else stole from me?" Probably not. That would make it a bad thing. You can then say that you shouldn't steal because it's 'evil' or 'bad' or whatever label you'd like to give it. "Would I like it if everyone else helped me if I was in trouble?" Probably yes. Then that's a good thing. It's really just that simple. That's where "goodness" comes from. It's like a society-scaled version of the golden rule, or your "do unto others and you would have them do unto you." Then all you do is apply it on a macro scale and you get wide social acceptance for the "no-brainer" rules like 'don't kill' and 'don't steal'. We then turned those obvious ones into laws (or "commandments"). We really are clever enough to have discovered morality on our own.

"Please stop your rhetoric, posturing and waxing eloguently
on theory......

Your missing the bottom line:
It's all about Jesus Christ.
Is he your savior? Yes/No?

Forget all the nonsense your kicking around and get with it.
Read: 1 Cor 1:18-31...
You sound like the character here trying to use your earthly wisdom to argue with the facts of God which makes you look foolish and in danger of going straight to hell.

Randy"


Oh, Randy. Let's try to have an open dialogue, shall we? It's apparently acceptable for Christians to promiscuously spread their version of reality to anyone they can find, but as soon as a dissenting voice is raised suddenly I'm a bad man and breaking some unspoken rule. If you're not willing or able to listen to others' views and defend your own, for what reason do you subscribe to them? Shucks, I would assume that through evangelism you wouldn't only get the easy sells. As soon as someone questions what you're telling them do you just give up and tell them they're unsaveable [sic]? I see the quality of your belief if my harmless ramblings have affected you so.

Oh, and:

Your missing the bottom line:
It's all about Jesus Christ.
Is he your savior? Yes/No?


I'm surprised you needed to ask. No, he's not my savior. He was just a very wise, very good, man with some brilliant ideas (and some not-so-brilliant ones, it must be said). I enjoyed and took to heart much of what he espoused. He was definitely a milestone in our moral development.

P.S. I have read the Bible. Several times. Cover to cover. And yes, I'm fairly sure I understood the meaning. At the end of the day I just wasn't able to take that proverbial leap of faith, I guess.

Randy, I hope you rediscover that Christian charity you seem to have temporarily misplaced.

Much love,

Joel

Pvblivs said...

Joshua s black:

"I can easily challenge your statement of Christian charity being merely a hook. Now, it is true, that Christians do charitable work in order to bring glory to God and sinners to Christ...."

I would like to see your challenge. What you managed to do was reaffirm my assertion. You did claim that it was hooking for positive reasons (maybe like "hooked on phonics"?) but that makes it no less a hook.

Neil said...

This is validated in a book called Who Really Cares, by Arthur C Brooks.

Garrie and Jackie said...

Interesting. I thought I'd do some internet sleuthing myself and typed in "Atheist charities" into Yahoo and Google search engines. What I got was atheist "apologetics" as to why there are no "atheist" charities. Of course, their defense is that any secular charity (they use the Red Cross as an example) is an atheist charity or any charity that doesn't promote a religious belief.